Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Evolution on monday morning

It's raining now but as I've mentioned before I dearly love the rain :) except when it traps me in the library though...haha...but no matter, still loving it.

So what's with monday morning? I'd say something interesting happened in class. 1st period was Biology~ and we had a different approach today. My lecturer gave us 6 scientific articles to read through beforehand especially for today. What was the topic?

-EVOLUTION-

Well not exactly evolution but along those lines. She came in class and all of us sat in a circle for this big discussion. 'Evolution' a big word now don't you think? Supposedly explaining our existence but how true is it? Surely all of you know Darwin right? Well Darwin was famous for the book he wrote; The Origin of Species. Many controversies resulted concerning the origin of us humans, whether or not we evolved from apes. I'd say of course not! But in order to say that, I must have a solid reason as to why. Reading the articles got me thinking. Not about whether or not the theory is true but about how I would justify it as being untrue. Scientists who came up with this theory are not just any Tom, Dick and Harry. For that I'd say they should be given respect for their opinions. Evolution is not just about apes becoming humans, it's also about other organisms forming a whole new species for their survival. There's a whole wider story to it and at some point the theory does fit but only to a certain extent.

You know what I think? I think the actual truth is it comes down to only ONE question.

'How did anything at all come to being?'

On a small scale perhaps we can explain for instance the different species of cats. Looking back, they'd come from a common ancestor and up to that point we can explain their origin but how about the origin of that ancestor and the ancestor to that ancestor? Moving higher up, we're at a loss. Harshly said, "Where the hell did everything come from? Arghhh!!!" (perhaps one of the monologues of a scientist? haha :P)

We are faced with one truth here. A truth some people would deny.

There are things in life that science just CANNOT explain.

Don't get me wrong though, knowing the above statement shouldn't stop us from trying our best to discover what's out there. It shouldn't stop us from trying to explain things coz we do know that there is no end to Allah's knowledge. The above statement is merely for us to know when to stop.

An explanation of the existence of nature used by many is that it simply existed. Nature is just there. If you ask me that explanation doesn't sound scientific at all yet people use it. Why? Because they have no answers.

This is where faith comes in. When discussing issues like this, I believe we should be open minded in hearing opinions from others. Put ourselves in their shoes for once, try seeing things from their perspective and not be biased to what we already know to be the truth. To me, only then will we make them see what we see. Only then will we be able to make them see the truth.

The truth in which there is no such thing as a 'design without a designer'. No such thing as a creation without a creator except for one which is Allah. Everything in this world has it's creator and that sole creator is Allah.

My brothers and sisters we have the answers. We have the answers to the extent that Allah gives us. To the extent that Allah shows us. Science may not be able to prove it but then again even science is His creation.

No creation is perfect but the Creator (Allah S.W.T) is.

Thank Allah for His religion coz without it we'd go mad. Without it, our questions would have been left unanswered. There are things we cannot reach. Things not meant for us to venture. Don't go meddling with things we don't know. Trust in Allah coz Allah knows best. Don't just say that but believe it.

It all comes down to one.

Lailahaillallah...

6 comments:

  1. hye nadira.

    i truly agree with your perspective of making other people SEE by putting ourselves in their situation.
    hoping more people would realise it.

    great post. :)

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  2. hey mariam :)

    Didn't know u were reading. thanks :) Thing is about people, arguing is more on the basis of wanting to win rather than searching for the truth which is what one should do. I guess with maturity comes proper approaches?

    Hope we get to learn from each other.

    p/s: why is ur blog private? no fair :P

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  3. Salam.

    Species obviously do change (From Adam we have Africans, Europeans, Chinese, Amazons, Aborigines, Inuit...). This has been common knowledge for thousands upon thousands of years. How dare people put accolades upon Darwin for noticing this. Darwin observed variations in a species, the beaks of Great Finch (a bird) and giant tortoises. So what? He was well over 4000 years late.

    The crucial thing he did then was to expanded upon that idea of species variation to PROPOSE a link between DIFFERENT species. He wasn't a religious man, and had no religious signpost to guide his thoughts. Fair enough then to propose that species link.

    Thing is, Darwin's culture was of the Christian West which had persecuted people like Galileo in the past who observed the physical universe was different from the flawed teaching/understandings of the Christian church at the time. The WEST then began to develop a strained relationship with Science.

    But with Islam it was different. Muslims in Cordoba/Andalucía the Maghreb embraced science - naturally. If man hadn't yet corrupted Divine Revelation then how could science contradict religion. It was the Muslims who translated the Greek works which eventually seeded the European Renaissance which the West tries to hijack as being independent of the Muslims. Europe was in the dark ages while Islam was embraced and lifted the people from Jahilliah to success from what's now known as Spain to parts of China.

    So Islam NEVER had a problem with Science. But the European tension with science once again hijacked Science as it's own and in effect 'exported' this tension to Islam when Europeans talked about Science as if it was something that rested solely in their hands.

    Eventually, Europeans used science for horrific means: ways to kill and injure people: biological diseases, poison gas, nuclear weapons with an eye to plundering the resources from other countries (like Malaysian tin) without thought for the environment or without much thought for the indigenous people. The Muslims had already largely reached a level of development that was satisfactory and more in tune with the earth so it appeared the Muslims might have stalled.

    Getting back to Darwin, from my understanding that it was others who latched onto Darwins proposal of interconnecting species and promoted it as fact (Neo-Darwinism I call it). But there is no evidence supporting that theory. I believe Darwin himself said evidence must be found before the theory could advance.


    Wikipedia says of Darwin that he provided "compelling evidence that all species of life have evolved over time from common ancestors" But there is NO evidence at all. The quote cites two references each relating to fossils. But there is no fossil evidence showing species changing from one form into the other (other than fakes, e.g. Archaeoraptor - they like to stay quiet about that one). But before its fake nature was exposed, we had the old scam of 'proof by artists impression' See it at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1248079.stm

    Their latest 'proof' which it seems to me us deliberately not subject to an honest analysis as to its authenticity, is Archaeopteryx, and there are many questions about this. It comes from China where what is called "fake fossils" {http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1888548,00.html} are notorious, indeed Archaeoraptor was one such Chinese fake. It is remarkable that it is the ONLY type of fossil (connecting birds to reptiles) that is supposed to show speciation and even more strangely this relation is exactly what Huxley proposed when he said. Isn't that strange?? And even more strange was the Archaeoraptor fake a number of years before that as supposed to 'prove' the same thing which scientists failed miserably failed to challenge. Then lo and behold, Archaeopteryx appeared which followed exactly what the fake Archaeoraptor was supposed to prove!

    Hah! "Scientists" - yeah right! Continued……

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  4. Fossil records are reported to show species 'suddenly' dying out, and then new species 'suddenly' appearing. If you don't count the very very suspicious Archaeopteryx, then there are NO interspecies links.

    "compelling evidence that all species of life have evolved over time from common ancestors" - Hahahah!

    But Allah(SWT) in the Qur'an mentions all things were made from the sea, so if creatures did evolve from each other, I would see no shame in accepting that - IF there was scientific evidence. But what do we find...?

    It is reported that Dirk Fuchs of the Freie University Berlin said about the non-Evolution {my modification} of the Octopus: “These are sensational fossils, extraordinarily well preserved,” But what surprised the scientists most was how similar the specimens are to modern octopus: “these things are 95 million years old, yet one of the fossils is almost indistinguishable from living species.” similar stories can be said of Horse-shoe crabs, Woodlice, Crocodiles, Sharks, Coelacanth.

    How come evolution was suspended in these creatures? How come with their long fossil record NO speciation is found in them? Why does the 'continual genetic mutation' not lead to these species evolving? I think I know why... 'cos there probably isn't any evolution by speciation!

    Ask a biology teacher who believes in evolution to GIVE PROOF as to why these species are immune from mutating. Then ask them how did animals turn from cold blooded to warm blooded? How did random genetic mutation lead to eyeballs forming, ears, immune systems, DNA replication mechanisms, protein synthesis, ADP/ATP cycle. How could feathers grow and the rest of the body (bone structure, muscle strength etc) change in synchronicity. How can one can disprove a soul. How can they discount the internal moral conscience (which admittedly we sometimes switch off) How did the first cell form which contained all the necessary functionality to replicate and absorb ‘food’ – where did the food come from? How come the ONLY cells we know of display the overwhelming tendency to die if just one part of it isn't working properly. How could an animal turn into a cold/warm blooded species when all the other animals around it would have been warm/cold blooded respectively?

    To me life is all about your relationship with God. There are many things to pull you away from God, many things to try and trick you, We are flawed people, trapped in this physical time, in a body, with the mind only the size of about a large Fuji apple, with only 5 limited senses, who will only be able to learn maybe 80 years of knowledge, into leaving your faith, to cut off your heart. To ignore the miracle of the Qur'an and the most amazing example of the Prophet (saw).

    Sex, Drugs, False paper money, Darwinism, Entertainment, devil worship, false religions (e.g. Ahmadiah Muslims, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad the British puppet) etc etc.

    Biologists say what their biology books tell them. Lets do what God teaches us, even though, God forbid, we sometimes stumble.

    And as you cleverly indicate ALL explanations of biology rest entirely upon what is already there. What created all this in the first place is said by biologists to be “oh, that’s Physics” yet Physics can’t even trace 96% of the matter it needs to support the Physics versions of Archaeoraptor. Where did all the transgenic Uranium come from in a Universe only 13 bln years old? And how can you even measure 13 billion years when as time goes on, time itself is supposed to change. Even Einstein’s special relativity is very limited, and as for quantum processes…. Well, just wait and see how if true, they are NOT in the least bit contradictory of the Qur’an. Hope this gets your mind buzzing.

    contunied in last part....

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  5. last part...


    Allah (SWT) wells us to seek knowledge. What a brave and superb directive. To me, one tafsir of that is crystal clear; nothing of true knowledge, as best as we can get true physical knowledge via our observations {all models are flawed – as we aren’t The Creator!} will support, via signs, the existence of God. Allah surrounds everything with knowledge.

    Salam.

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  6. X sure if my last post got through, but the last part of my large reply is written wrongly.

    I watned to say:

    "nothing of true knowledge, as best as we can get true physical knowledge via our observations {all models are flawed – as we aren’t The Creator!} will support, via signs, ANYTHING OTHER THAN the existence of God."

    i.e. true knowledge reveals God.

    Could you please correct the mistake? I feel very uncomfortable about it being there.

    Salam.

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